The Healer's Charlie Goldsmith tells Andrew Denton that he wants his “gift” studied

Charlie Goldsmith was 18 when he says he discovered his gift of energy, one that he could use to heal others. “I was at breakfast and sat down to get my knife and fork and as I went to get them my hands pulled together,” he told Andrew Denton on this week’s episode of Interview. Goldsmith explained how this phenomenon caused him to go “into a little bit of internal shock because it was like someone pushed them [together].”

Goldsmith, who landed a reality TV deal with American network TLC for a show called The Healer that depicts him “healing” people who suffer from conditions like arthritis and fibromyalgia, sat down with Denton to chat about his abilities and his desire to be considered credible within the medical industry. However, 37-year-old Goldsmith was called out by Denton, who took aim at his taking part in a University of Arizona study under the supervision of Professor Gary Schwartz, “an art professor in New York with no medical background,” said Denton.

Charlie Goldsmith being interviewed by Andrew Denton

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The acclaimed journalist said to Goldsmith, “What you’re claiming to do is mysterious and unknowable and almost impossible to measure and what he’s interested in are things that are mysterious, unknown and almost impossible to measure, so he’s non-objective observer of what you do.” Denton added, “Where you’re talking and where you’re walking are different places. You’re talking you want credible but you’re not walking that space.”

While Goldsmith admitted that he didn’t know Schwartz well enough to defend him, he still appreciated the way he worked. “What I like about him… the fact that he has spent a large part of his career interested in this area gives him insight into how to test things, now that doesn’t make it wrong,” said Goldsmith. Denton disagreed, saying: “I would argue it makes him predisposed to show that you’re right as opposed to having a scientific, neutral credible method.”

Goldsmith, who is also taking part in small studies with New York University and Duke University, said he’s open to other medical studies in the hopes of proving that his energy healing is in fact real. “If someone wants to study me, I’m interested,” said Goldsmith. “I’m interested in different views so the NYU people are going to study one facet, the Duke people will study another, now this guy will study another… I’ve spent 20 years wanting to be studied.”